#awinewith Deniz Akan
MEET Deniz Akan, Founder of Dimensional Healing
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Transcript
Danielle Lewis (00:00):
You are listening to Spark TV, where we bring you daily interviews with real women in business at all stages. I'm your host, Danielle Lewis, and I am so grateful to have you here. So good. Denise, welcome to Spark tv. It's so wonderful to have you here.
Deniz Akan (00:18):
Thank you. Thank you, thank you. I'm super excited to be here. Thanks for having me. And hi to everybody that's watching.
Danielle Lewis (00:25):
Oh, I love it. I love it. Let's start out by telling everyone who you are and what you do.
Deniz Akan (00:29):
Alright, so my name is Denise Ahan. I'm half German, half Turkish. It's a Turkish background name. That's always a bit tricky here in Australia. It's not Denise, but it's Denise. Denise. And yeah, I was born and raised in Germany. I am in my business for quite a while now. I started in 2003 with my journey actually. So I am the face and the heart to dimensional healing. I do energetic healing work. I'm a very grounded practitioner, which is, I'm very out left field in the WOOWOO box and
Danielle Lewis (01:08):
I love a bit
Deniz Akan (01:08):
Of woowoo. This is going to be good. And I do, it's a combination of my own modality and combination of my stepping stones. So I started off with learning reiki for example, and then getting more and more modalities and then my gifts started to come out and it's in the family as well a little bit. But yeah, now I got my own business and I think it was, I'm here since 2010, I think 2013 is when the team started to say, okay, no more side jobs. We don't want to see you at the cafe, just do your thing. And it was scary at first to jump in and to go like, oh, okay, really? But I just had to trust it. And yeah, I love what I'm doing and there's many things I do. I do workshops, I do seminars, I do one-on-one sessions with people. I do readings for houses, for businesses, I work with animals. So basically I have the ability to communicate with everything and with many different dimensions as well.
Danielle Lewis (02:11):
Oh my god. Oh, this is so good. Okay, so let's go back. How did you get into this? Have you always been a little intuitive? Have you always been into the woowoo or did you have a career before you started this? What's the backstory?
Deniz Akan (02:29):
I learned very boring. In Germany we call it, it's something like it's big business like apprenticeship for business. So basically I can do my own accounts and everything, which is great that I've learned that very long time ago. And then I left Germany and Lyft in India for a long time, for seven years. Oh wow. So in India was actually where my love for crystals really came in. And before that, answering your question, I was always very sensitive, but I always thought it's actually kind of a downfall to be so sensitive and so emotional. But then later on I understood like, wow, that's actually part of my gift to have that sensitivity and being able to connect to many things and then you learn to how you shield yourself and don't connect to everything.
Danielle Lewis (03:20):
Oh my god, that'll get noisy.
Deniz Akan (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And then in India, my journey started with the crystals. So I communicate with crystals as well. I create crystal grids and work through the quantum field these days. And then I lived in Thailand after that and Thailand was actually when I started to teach. Wow. Yeah, quite a journey. There's a lot of stories. I don't even know exactly where to start stories and experiences in my life.
Danielle Lewis (03:53):
It's so interesting though, isn't it? I'm always fascinated by how people got to where they currently are. Our lives are such long, windy journeys and I think that scares people sometimes because I think they feel like they're supposed to have everything figured out, but it's just so that's just not how life works. It is just a experience after experience and saying yes to opportunities. So fascinating that that's
Deniz Akan (04:24):
Where know what I think actually it's very much about no pushing and no pulling and realizing when you think it's a bad experience, but quite often 10 years later or even 10 days later, you realize, oh wow, actually that was really good that that happened because now I'm doing this. So understanding we are in the flow. Everything is exactly perfect.
Danielle Lewis (04:48):
And I find it's funny, before we hit record, I was telling you that I've just been mapping out spark and where it's going and a new iteration and it is interesting. Sometimes I just don't think that you can have the right idea or the next idea until something has happened and sparked the inspiration for it. I was literally, there's a product that I've been wanting to bring to life for a while and it's that's in development. But then I had a conversation with someone I was like, oh, hang on a second, this could be this. And it's like sometimes you need all of the little conversations and experiences and happenings for the idea to really formulate and percolate in your brain.
Deniz Akan (05:32):
Definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly right. I have it with all my gifts that came in one by one. It's actually through my own experience is only when I transformed it into offering it to other people.
Danielle Lewis (05:45):
Wow. So what kind of state would someone be in when they come to you? So what kind of people might say, hang on a second. Let's start with what is energy healing? So for anyone who's listening, let's explain that.
Deniz Akan (06:00):
Okay. So I believe everything is sound and vibration and everything has a spirit. Energy healing can be a lot of things. So I can only speak for my little niche that I created because energy healings, even shui how you create your house and map out the rules, I think that's like an energy healing as well. But in my case, I communicate if it's the business, I do business clearings, house clearing property, clearings or as I said, personal sessions and so forth. So basically I connect my heart space to a heart space to the person that's connecting to me or let's say a business. And then what we do is we actually release anything that blocks anything that's out of alignment and we are bringing everything back into that universal alignment. And with that then synchronistic events can happen, people can have more clients come in or if it's for a house, people ask me sometimes if they want to sell a house and they can't sell it or they're looking for their dream house, things like that.
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And it just helps. Really what it is, is I communicate basically what I believe is that we are all interconnected and everything's interconnected and that's how I feel I can actually adjust things. And so I lost my track then in what I was going to say before then. But basically I do card readings, I do a crystal grid if it's a remote session, if it's a session in person for somebody, a one-on-one session and I put crystals on them, I speak light language, which is also part of energy healing. And it could be that old om the Om from India, that was the first sound that was created for healing. So even when you are at home just Ming or humming, it does so much. And now we have so much science background, what it does to our nervous system as well. So yeah, sound and vibration, that's where I started. Everything is that. And with the love connection and combined with all of that, I feel we can actually transform and transmute so much so quickly. So I don't necessarily have people in crisis, it's more people that are a bit more advanced as well,
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Or if they have a certain goal. Sometimes I have people that want to have a package and they want to do every couple of months a session because they want to accelerate their spiritual growth, for example. Or if I go down to the pets, to our little fur babies, there might be something going on and then I just communicate with that and they literally show me pictures or I hear words and it's so easy to say for example, oh this is really weird, but I saw the cat litter of your cat. And then that person was like, there was something that happened in Germany when I did an animal communication course and the lady's like, oh my god, I changed the cat litter because the cat was saying, I don't like this smell. And I'm like, I don't know what she's saying. And she's like, that cat litter has lavender smell on it and goosebumps even now thinking about it.
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And yeah, many, many amazing beautiful experiences I had. And there was no doubt anymore after a certain time of doing the work, when you realize it that it actually works, you just have to trust it and go with it. And it's not even a placebo for people. What I do is sometimes I have female clients, of course I have 80% female in my business, but then every now and then they send the husband in and they're total skeptics. And I love it because then I get the best information, usually things I can't know and I say it and they're just like, oh my god, it just comes in. It's just basically learning the ability with that sensitivity to actually listen to everything and then make sense of it so I can hear things, I see things, I feel things in my body. So there's a lot of the clear gifts, clairvoyance see clear audio and all of them at work.
Danielle Lewis (10:22):
And I love how you said you can identify the blocks and figure out where people are out of alignment. Because I almost feel like even in the non woo woo sense, that's what I observe in a lot of people is just they have everything that they need inside them. There's just something stopping them, something that's holding them back. There is that block. And they usually find that it's just in their head and that's just me, non woowoo objective person. So then I would think that's exactly how it would be for most people. And you would look at them or feel them and go, ah, it's just this thing we need to fix. And yeah, that's really
Deniz Akan (11:06):
Interesting. That's right. And then sometimes it's about, sometimes I can even see sometimes past lives, even though I'm not connected to that on mediumship, I'm not really certified in that. But sometimes people from the other side come through just saying, I never know before a session what's going to happen. And it be colors and people coming in or assistances coming in or pets from the other side, it's pretty wild. And then the interdimensional connections there, that's in a whole nother level. So I communicate to planetary bodies and Mother Earth of course, and we know that we can connect to Mother Earth and just by walking barefoot already, you do so much good to your body. And the beautiful thing is I'm doing this, what did I say? I think 2003 is when I started off.
Danielle Lewis (12:02):
So it's over 20 years.
Deniz Akan (12:03):
Yeah.
Danielle Lewis (12:04):
Wow.
Deniz Akan (12:05):
Yeah, I'm getting on there. I'm actually more
Danielle Lewis (12:08):
Years out only getting better. Just like a fine wine. I say
Deniz Akan (12:12):
Wine, exactly. And good cheese. Yes.
Danielle Lewis (12:18):
What was it like taking something that is so deeply spiritual and personal and connected? How was it actually taking that and that skill into a business? What was that like for you?
Deniz Akan (12:33):
Very interesting journey, that one. So actually that brings me back to what you asked before. So before I left Germany, I started to be interested in it and I started to hear about resonance, which is a energetic healing you can do. And then I heard about reiki, but I left before I dove into it. And then I had my journey in my experiences. And then later on bit by bit I actually did all these modalities for myself. And my mum used to be really riddled with pain, so she passed already, but there was a lot of my part inside of me going, oh, maybe I can help mom a bit. So I learned reiki, which is the hand on healing modality where we connect to the universal energy. And then the reiki master I did that with, she taught me very quickly, you do it always for yourself before you do anything for other people.
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And then taking that into business that started in Thailand when I finished my reiki master qualification over there, which are three different levels you have in Reiki or up to four. And then I communicated with crystals already, but then that trust to gain the trust, it took a while, the moment I finished that certification, which I wanted to do again for myself because the first reiki levels have brought so much change into my life and so much clarity, which was wonderful. So I just wanted to see what's going to happen next. And the very first day I went out for dinner after that course and one of my friends was like, oh my God, you're finished. Can I be your first student?
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And then at the time I was a bit, I dunno, I have to think about it. And then I went the next day I'm like, you know what? Of course. And then that's actually how it started. And then coming from that kind of spiritual background with the work, it's actually quite tricky how to offer that that really came together here in Australia. Then it's that whole thing about some people think, oh, you shouldn't charge for spiritual things. And it's like, you know what? No, you definitely should. I've learned a lot and many years and many modalities and fine tuned through my crazy journey of life, all these things, but that worthiness and to actually get yourself out. And then I started off with having stalls at the MINDBODY Spirit Festival, for example. Oh
Danielle Lewis (15:05):
Yes, yes, yes.
Deniz Akan (15:07):
So I was there and then all these different little expos and that's how I got myself out. I just had to follow, I mean, I completely do everything by intuition and it was like nothing that helped me back anymore because it was like, oh, okay, that's what I have to do now. And I never really thought about, oh, how is that going to look in five years or in 10 years I just went with it. And then you gain momentum from, you have a certain client base and then once you've gained that momentum, then it's like, oh wow, okay, this is working for me in my life as well, as well as offering something beautiful to people
Danielle Lewis (15:47):
And I love it. It's really interesting, the thought about people who help people often fall into that. I shouldn't charge for it across very many industries, but I do love that you circled back to, no, actually I've gained this experience. I have done all of these things that is worthy and you will have such a great impact on people's lives. So there is absolutely, I'm like, I always just put a pin in things as I'm like, I want, if anyone's listening that's doubting themselves, you should be charging, even if you're helping people, realistically, all businesses help people. It doesn't matter if you are Spark where we offer business resources or you are offering energy healing, or if someone's a graphic designer designing a flyer, we're all helping other people. It's all worthy and it all should be charged for.
Deniz Akan (16:42):
Yes, exactly. Right. I totally agree. And even small stepping stones. Yeah, it's all part of it. It's like we are a community and we have to work together as well. That's why I'm so excited about the platform when I came across it, it's like, oh wow, this is amazing.
Danielle Lewis (17:00):
Yes, it is. And I love you said before we recorded the people, the community. I'm like, yeah, that's the secret ingredient in Spark is just, I don't know what it is, but we just attract amazing people. We've just really, I don't know. I think my philosophy is just take what you need when you need it, and I want to evolve with the community as well. And it's just, I think as a result, we attract those kinds of people and people come in and out over the years and show up and some calls don't and all the things or they're on Slack or whatever. It works for them. And I just find that the type of people that have come together have just been so beautiful. So yeah, so I'm very excited to have you as a part of it.
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Oh, that's so good. I love it. I love it. And I also like that you mentioned that you perhaps didn't have a, or don't have a five year, 10 year long-term plan. It is about momentum and the next step and the next step and the next step. I think sometimes, again, people feel like they're supposed to have everything figured out, and I am just becoming more and more with the fact that just business can work your way. It doesn't need to be someone else's definition of success, and you can just be happy with how you approach your business.
Deniz Akan (18:34):
Yeah, that's right. And there's actually one thing I've learned already on this journey is because I am a perfectionist, I must say, and then German, German background, everything. I like my order and my lists and all that in my Excel spreadsheets, but I had to learn and let go of that idea, oh, don't step out there until everything is perfect because the metal works. Come out and do your little things. You do the first offering, you have your first design, your first logo, and it can change. It's like when people buy a new car or even bigger a house,
(19:12):
It can be so confronting, but at the end of the day, you can always sell it again and do something else. It's not like life and death. We can make a nice little logo and if you don't like it next year anymore, you change it. We can change the brand and we can tweak things, and I think it's better to step into the flow rather than holding back and thinking, oh, because I was holding back for a while with things and I was like, oh, I don't know, have to do it. Perfect. But no, that would be one of my tips for everybody as well.
Danielle Lewis (19:47):
I love that. Oh, I love it. I love it so much. What do you think your biggest challenge has been on the journey?
Deniz Akan (19:54):
The biggest challenge maybe I think maybe the bureaucracy in Australia, that background, because then living in India and Thailand for so long to get my head around it, because I knew when I moved here and I had permanent residency, I knew I want to grow quite big with my business. So the challenge for me was to actually understand and because English is my second language to actually understand all the ways what I have to do, and then to buy my business name and to all these steps, I found them actually a bit challenging. Everything else, I'm a pretty go with the flow kind of person and things unfold, but I think that was actually my little stone that I had to jump over say that.
Danielle Lewis (20:50):
Yeah, and it's interesting, isn't it? I think that it's really interesting because sometimes people put all of those things almost as the roadblock to getting started. So I do like that its you almost reverse that. You just get started anyway and just figure those little things out
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Along the way. And I know it's actually funny, I was having a conversation with my husband last night about, because I'm changing companies and different things, and I was like, what do I do with this phone bill? I'm like, I don't want to go to jail. Over $80 phone bill, bill. It's funny when you said that, I was thinking about that, the bureaucracy, have I done lodge this thing on time? Do I need to register for, that's all of the things. And I think I'm on a couple of emails, like smart company and my accountant, they always scare the crap out of you with they're cracking down on super and they're doing this and they're doing that, and I'm like, oh my God, it's too much. I'm just trying to run a business here.
Deniz Akan (21:53):
Yeah, exactly.
Danielle Lewis (21:54):
Oh, it's hilarious.
Deniz Akan (21:56):
They are those things that, yeah, it's interesting and for some people that's so normal. But I think just because of how I lived my life the last few years, it's been a bit of a different journey. And then to come back into that kind of system, it's like, oh, wow, okay. Then also that idea of when you run your own business, I don't get super from anybody. So that was another little challenge going like, all right, I'm feeling now I'm getting more mature every year. And then to have that to actually the financial thought of making sure you have a platform or your savings or that you create something for yourself. Yeah, I don't think I've ever had really anything super fearful in my life, but there were certainly the little things that made me think about my business a bit differently.
Danielle Lewis (22:50):
And it is interesting, and perhaps that is one of the good outcomes to come out of it, is the reminding yourself that this is a business. It should pay you, it should pay you super. You do have to remind yourself that you are building this to support you and to support your life and whatever those goals look like, they can be different. But yeah, perhaps if anything, it's just a good reminder that we also ladies need to get paid.
Deniz Akan (23:15):
Yes. Yeah, exactly. Pay yourself. That's another thing that took me a little while, actually. That's a good point to actually go, hang on a second. Okay, that's all in the same account and all my incomes and my expenses are going in, hang on. But where's my payment? I mean, I do my living, but actually, yeah, that's a very important part. To put that aside, I reckon.
Danielle Lewis (23:40):
Yeah, I think the sooner that you can separate it, have a business account, have a personal account, pay yourself, even if it's tiny, even if it's like $50, get something in there that shows you that you are actually making money out of this exercise. I think it is hard though. I know I always feel like I should, or profits should always be going back into the business and yeah, it is really hard to, I think when you're a business owner, you feel guilty about looking after yourself and having fun for no reason.
Deniz Akan (24:16):
That's safe care, save love, very important. I just had a business exchange, like a swap session with somebody and she runs a beauty sub, and so we did half of my pricing. She gave me a facial and half in cash, which I was happy about it. And I set crystals as well. So I hold workshops where I teach people how to clear their crystals and activate them, and then I usually say crystals as well, and she bought a whole lot of crystals and it's just lovely. But I think one thing I've learned actually only here in Australia as well in 2011, that it's a great idea to always, whatever money you make, take just 10% of it and put it aside.
Danielle Lewis (25:06):
Oh yeah. For tax?
Deniz Akan (25:09):
No, just for yourself.
Danielle Lewis (25:10):
Oh,
Deniz Akan (25:11):
Okay, okay. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, to put aside and then you have something aside
Danielle Lewis (25:15):
And whatever
Deniz Akan (25:16):
It is, that might be a crazy dentist book coming up
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Or whatever. But actually I started to have more of a system where I had literal full folder. Now it's different, but I had literally a folder where I had rentals and car money. I had 10% money. I had something for dental care because it's quite expensive in Australia after you lived in Asia and things like that where you have like, oh yeah, no, I don't want to just use money. And then when the bigger bits come, you don't have it aside already. So I had to actually train myself a bit with that running my own business when I stopped working for other people. Yeah, it's an interesting, interesting journey.
Danielle Lewis (26:01):
It is, and it's funny, I always think about as you're speaking, I'm thinking about I have a budget, but there'll be so many times where I'm trying to solve a problem in my business and I'll be Googling, I'll be, oh yeah, I'll just sign up for that trial. Or I'll just buy that software. I'll just solve the problem with money. And you think it's like nothing, 50 bucks or a hundred bucks, and then all of a sudden in six months time you've up all of these extra expenses that we didn't budget for, and then you do have an unexpected expense and it's like, oh, where did that money go? It is such a lesson in finances, isn't it?
Deniz Akan (26:39):
Absolutely. Yeah. For me, it's the warehouse. If I go and do wholesale crystal shops, stick to the list, don't look, don't look. Get your clients the crystals they need.
Danielle Lewis (26:53):
Oh my God, that's hilarious. I love it. How do you go with, if you are experiencing other people's energy, do you have a hard time not letting that affect you?
Deniz Akan (27:07):
No, I don't.
Danielle Lewis (27:07):
Or you can separate it.
Deniz Akan (27:09):
I can really separate it apart from the times when you can't. But now, and then you do have situations, for example, when you work with the ORIC field of a person, the aura,
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The moment you are emotional or you might have had a little shock or an accident or pain in the body, or let's say people get drunk. And when you have that feeling like you walk into a place and you go like, oh, something feels a bit weird here. It's quite often because at other people or yourself, we open up and then if we are not good with our energetic hygiene, things can connect and attach and that's really not a scary thing at all. So some people, if I start talking about attachments or entanglement is a nicer word, they go like, oh no. Oh my god, that's so scary. But it's actually not scary. It's just more about learning that you are a divine spark and the divine light and it's just about that you she yourself, for example, or have a certain crystal on you or that protects you or it's, it's definitely a thing for me when I walk into a huge mall, I usually do a very quick shielding just like that. Nobody knows what I'm doing, it's just you visualize it. Or if you can't visualize, you imagine this field of protection around you, and that's all it takes, but it's
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Up to the person you have to do. It takes only a second, but it really helps to block others' energy.
Danielle Lewis (28:40):
Well, that's really interesting because the next question I was going to ask you was if there was one tiny thing for somebody listening that they could do just to keep things up, but that's such a beautiful, that just protection, I really like that. Just like let's just stick to ourself. Yeah,
Deniz Akan (28:58):
That's right. Exactly. And you can imagine it as a golden sphere or a blue egg was the old one that I've learned long time ago, but I do it for myself with the golden sphere, or when I do this one, I actually imagine zipping up my energy field.
Danielle Lewis (29:15):
When you did that for me, I visualized some kind of in a sci-fi movie, kind of like an energy field, almost like a shield, like an actual shield that they would hold star warsie.
Deniz Akan (29:30):
Perfect. I love that one. I think I'm going to use that from now on. It's like a holographic shield.
Danielle Lewis (29:36):
Yeah. I always leave movies wanting to be an action hero, so now I can do that in real life. This
Deniz Akan (29:44):
Is fantastic. Yes, exactly. And really, I mean now the beautiful thing for in my life with my business was actually when all the science started to come in about energy and healing and the profound power of putting gratitude into things. You might know the work of Dr. Emoto. He was a Japanese scientist and he did the one where they communicated to water and changed the water crystals. Yeah. So it's like when that came out, my whole world just went, thank you, because now it's the out of the woo box, and I actually have science and can explain things to people.
Danielle Lewis (30:26):
Yeah, it's so interesting, isn't it? I think about in fields that I've been in in the past, when you're trying to do something new, there is this gap in education, and you feel like for a long time you do almost have to explain and educate and persuade people, and then something shifts and something is proved or the times have changed or whatever, and you get that, oh, now I can breathe. Everyone knows what I'm talking about. I do find it interesting in your space as well, that that's essentially what's happened is you've already known it to be true and to be impactful. And obviously there will be early adopters who also believe and are on the journey, but then you have that science or the technology or whatever it is, come out and you Oh, great. Now the people who weren't on the train can get on the train.
Deniz Akan (31:18):
Exactly right.
Danielle Lewis (31:19):
Yeah,
Deniz Akan (31:19):
So true. Yeah, it's very exciting. Indeed.
Danielle Lewis (31:23):
It's so exciting,
Deniz Akan (31:24):
And it's all that Tesla energy work as where there's more and more coming onto the market where that whole knowledge about that the medicine of the future is sound and vibration.
Danielle Lewis (31:37):
Oh, wow.
Deniz Akan (31:38):
Yeah, it's big. And Einstein was talking about it and Tesla was talking about it.
Danielle Lewis (31:44):
It's super cool. I was listening to a podcast yesterday about a guy who'd run a bunch of experiments around, it was medicine versus food and how they could basically imitate the same results using pharmaceuticals as food. They were doing the same scientific tests and they could see the same reduction in tumors and cell production and all that kind of stuff. So it only just goes to show that nature and what we have around us is the ecosystem already exists to, I think, heal us and keep us in the best possible state. So why not tap into those things that are around us?
Deniz Akan (32:26):
Exactly. And just to clarify, so they were saying that having the food instead of the pharmaceuticals. Yeah,
Danielle Lewis (32:33):
Yeah. Something like as just a random example, he was saying that they've done this study where essentially having three half a cups of cooked tomatoes every week, so in a male's diet, imitated the same healing properties to the prostate as a pharmaceutical solution that they had. And it's only just beginning, but he's like, it's kind of the same thing he's been saying for so long that food heals, but now they have the science, now they've done the experiments, now they've got the time where the studies have been in action. And I was just listening thinking, yeah, it is so fascinating that we've probably got access to most things we need around us, but we kind of go to other solutions sometimes. So yeah, it was really fascinating.
Deniz Akan (33:24):
Yeah, I find that really cool, and it's just that we've not been taught or we are away from that metro connection to everything.
Danielle Lewis (33:33):
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well, I think these days we're glued to our phones most of the time, so it makes it difficult. Oh, I could talk to you all day. This is so good, but I better not wrap up. So I always love to wrap up our podcast with one last piece of advice. So reflecting on your time in business, what would be a piece of advice that you would give to another woman on her business journey?
Deniz Akan (34:02):
I think it's the one about stepping out into the world and to just trust yourself and to be it truly work from the heart and don't get too much into your head. And I think with the passion, whatever your passion is, if you step into that, that's actually nobody else has that. Even though you might think, oh, this is similar. Some other people do it already or no, will I get there? Just go for it. That will be my little advice, and I've done it myself for myself as well.
Danielle Lewis (34:34):
Oh, I love it so much. You are absolutely incredible. Deni, thank you so much for sharing your time and your wisdom with us. That was incredible.
Deniz Akan (34:44):
Thank you. Thank you. I had hips of fun and learned so much as well. So good. Thank you.
Danielle Lewis (34:49):
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