#awinewith Meghan Loneragan
MEET Meghan
Meghan is the Founder of Meghan Loneragan, Copywriter & Content Consultant.
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Transcript
Danielle Lewis (00:09):
Oh my gosh, we made it vegan. Thank you for being on Spark tv.
Meghan Loneragan (00:15):
So happy to be here. Thank you.
Danielle Lewis (00:18):
Amazing. And I was actually so excited to speak with you because we've known each other, oh my gosh. So probably early scrunch days. So we met all the way back when you were influencing and doing all of those things, but your career and your business has evolved so much over the years, and that's particularly why I wanted to talk to you because I think that it's so nice to hear from people that haven't done things traditionally or had a linear journey because I think you can kind of write your own script these days. So I love talking to people who have been able to do that for themselves. But before I bang on about it, I would love it if you can kick us off by sharing with the smart community, I guess your business journey, so where you started and what you are currently doing from a business perspective.
Meghan Loneragan (01:12):
I love what you said about writing your own journey or making your own journey, your own path. I feel like that is basically what I do. My goal in life is just not to always stay relevant, but to always be hireable and always be on top of things that are happening. So you met me in the middle of my journey. So the start of my journey was in branded content at publishing houses like Pacific Mags and Bower Media, and I did not know that my background was at Qantas Magazine and doing all the digital content for them. Then I started the blog on the side, which was where I met you. So back in the day when blogging was cutting edge. Yeah, it wasn't
Danielle Lewis (01:58):
Influencing yet. It was blogging.
Meghan Loneragan (02:01):
I can't even tell you how it blows my mind, how quick everything moves. So my partner and I started Citizens of the World, which is a street style slash travel blog slash interiors blog, blah, blah, blah. And we went on this big influencer journey with that, which was amazing experience for building content, increasing, creating revenue out of brand alignment, working with brands and seeing what they want and how influencers think. So I got heaps of experience there, but then we had a baby and we realized we're just getting a little too old for this, right? It's too much
Danielle Lewis (02:39):
Influencers as a young kids game.
Meghan Loneragan (02:42):
This is the thing. It's not, I'll tell you, I've kind of evolved now, but it's where we were and the traveling of it was just we felt like we were faking it a little bit. And so my husband and I had a really big conversation and we said, you know what? Let's just do what we're good at. So my husband is really good at photography and I'm good at writing. Yeah, I'm not really good, but I'm pretty good.
Danielle Lewis (03:09):
Thank you for being humble.
Meghan Loneragan (03:12):
So these days I work with brands or people figuring out their content pillars, what they want to, because you are what you share. So help people figure out what they want to share in order to help the themselves or their business. And I also help people with their social strategy. And then I also just write for people now, which is nice. Sorry that that was a really long chat,
Danielle Lewis (03:36):
But that's it though, right? It's kind of like, I remember when I started a business, I didn't know that you were allowed to start a business. I went to school and I went to uni and I got a corporate job, and then I just read this book that talked about business. I was like, hold on a second. You can just invent stuff for your life. What is this magic?
Meghan Loneragan (03:57):
But I remember with Scrunch, you were so ahead of the times with it. So I think when I met you, you were working as the middleman between brands and influencers and I can't even, so people who were listening, you were one of the first companies in Australia to really do it professionally and properly. So that's a huge achievement and I understand the evolution because things have evolved so quickly.
Danielle Lewis (04:24):
Oh, totally. And I mean it's really interesting. We've changed again. So at Christmas time we actually moved completely away from that agency world and we've gone total into tech and community because I'm looking at everything going well. I think that's the future now. Yes, there's so many middlemen now that I'm like, okay, what's next? How do we stay ahead and continue to change the game? So I love that. I just love that idea that you don't have to stay the same forever.
Meghan Loneragan (04:53):
I feel like you and I are kindred spirits. And you know what? I used to feel embarrassed. I had someone, another influencer come up to me at a party one day and she came up and she goes, you know what I love about you, Megan, is you always just jump on the next cool thing and just do it. And at the time I took that home and I was like, to my partner, I was like, I'm so offended. But then I sat with it and I was like, I'm sure she didn't mean it nicely, but I went, there's actually a good thing about that. There is something to be said for staying on top of things and trying to always learn about new stuff and evolve with the world. The world is always changing.
Danielle Lewis (05:35):
Well, I mean, I don't think you can even be in social media without always jumping on the next new thing. Every couple of years we've got this new social channel that we've now all got a master. This year we're talking about NFTs and Web3, and it's like, what the hell? So I think if you're not staying on top of the game, you're probably going to get left behind. I feel like there was this whole chat about tech startups, Uber came out and then that we're disrupting the taxi industry and Amazon disrupting the book buying industry, whatever. And it's like, so all of that kind of happened. I'm like, I think we're on the precipice of that happening in some way again. So if you are not staying ahead of things, what do you think is going to happen?
Meghan Loneragan (06:22):
That's interesting. And I unfortunately work in an industry, the writing industry, we have AI breathing down our necks. Oh my God, all the time. God, I'm just
Danielle Lewis (06:34):
Being targeted with ads for this
Meghan Loneragan (06:36):
Crazy, and in a way, I completely get why people would use AI for pretty brainless kind of writing, but the writing industry will always, in content industry will always exist. But my modus operandi is to be water and flow into where the gaps are and be like, okay, someone's got an AI there, but that AI is not going to build their content strategy. So I will help them with that. I just want to survive, man.
Danielle Lewis (07:12):
Well, you were doing far more than surviving, so don't stress. I think that the business strategy that you have is working, but I mean, how do you then marry up? Because it's interesting, I guess this is a business that you have created, but when you talk about your journey, it's very much a creative path. You talk about words writing copy, you talk about content creation, talk about brand such a creative lens. How do you find that skillset and marrying the idea of being in business? It's interesting, before we hit record, let everyone in on the secrets, but we talked about the influencer industry and how a lot of people don't know that they're businesses, they've got this creative thing that they do or this side hustle or hobby, and they don't realize their own business. What's been your take on building a business around these kind of creative pursuits?
Meghan Loneragan (08:15):
I feel that's a really good question. I feel like this generation, they didn't grow up like we said with the agencies and magazines in that era. So they don't have that experience. However, there is so much more information floating around out there now than ever before. And I feel like this generation coming up are so clued in about their worth and knowing, and they are quite smart, not quite smart. They're super fucking smart about their value to companies. And I feel like maybe it's my TikTok for you page, but there's always constantly people coming up being like, no, you're worth as a creator, this is your information. I think, wow, that video has had 3 million views and that's 3 million kids that have learned that, or not 3 million, but you know what I mean? Yeah. So in terms of the business side versus creative side, I don't know. I think I try and be creative with my business side.
Danielle Lewis (09:20):
Oh, I like that. Yeah, I like
Meghan Loneragan (09:22):
That. And I use notion to kind of make it a fun process for me to do a lot of the business admin stuff. So notion is it took a little while to learn, but you kind of gamify your structure of your day. I also did a really intense business personal development course a year ago, and Oh, cool. Lot of, they practice a lot of this thing called extreme ownership, which I'm obsessed with. It's this concept that everything in your life, whether in business or personal is sort of not your fault, but is you take responsibility. Yeah. Everything ends and begins with you. So say if I had a bad experience with a client, I'd go away and go, okay, where did I go wrong in the processes here? And take ownership of that. It can be very easy in business to go, oh, I've had a bad day. That's that person's fault, or that's person's fault. If you structure your day, you can always have a good day. I think if you plan it.
Danielle Lewis (10:29):
I love this so much. So I've just gotten goosebumps,
Meghan Loneragan (10:34):
I think about a lot.
Danielle Lewis (10:35):
No, but it's amazing. And so I think this funny thing is happening with Spark tv where just as much as I'm getting to interview amazing founders and that's giving value to the Spark community, I'm hearing things that I need and people are coming to me and one thing I've been doing lately or I've been aware that I'm doing is with the previous co-founder, there were some things that happened that maybe you weren't ideal. And I've been blaming and I'm like, no, no, no.
Meghan Loneragan (11:06):
Oh yeah,
Danielle Lewis (11:08):
Yeah. I've been blaming that person for why I am not where I want to be. And I guess as a founder, I think you're never where you want to be and you're always chasing the next thing. But I was like, absolutely not, Danielle. You are responsible for everything that you do. You have complete control of your life. Stop blaming anybody else. Now is your time to thrive and things your way.
Meghan Loneragan (11:34):
I really understand that and you get it. It's human nature to go, well, they did that. They did that to me and that's why I am here. But the extreme ownership is actually a super empowering thing. It feels counterintuitive to go, well, I fucked up here and I fucked up there. But it means if you can identify the bits where you've gone wrong, you can go, okay, well I got myself there. I can get myself there. It is a very empowering concept, but it took a while for them to drum it into me being a writer. I don't know. I've got an ego like everybody else, but once you crush it, it's good.
Danielle Lewis (12:14):
Yeah, no, that is amazing. I love that. So speaking then of co-founders, so I know that I'm not sure if you're still in business with your partner. I know you were, but how have you found that process?
Meghan Loneragan (12:30):
Very quickly after doing this business course, figured out that we needed to, because we are romantic partners as well as business partners, and in a way that is such an appealing thing for people to do because why wouldn't you want to work with someone you love? But we found that it was just any challenges that happened, it was impacting our whole relationship. And so we found we work so much better giving each other advice on our separate things, but not working hand in hand. I guess it's a codependency thing. Codependency sounds good on paper, but it's not. It's just, yeah. So I think
Danielle Lewis (13:19):
How did you get to that conclusion? Because, so that's my background as well. So it was in business with my partner and am no longer,
Meghan Loneragan (13:28):
So you get it.
Danielle Lewis (13:29):
Yeah, totally get it. So I'm like, this is this kindred spirit thing. I don't know what's going on in this chat.
Meghan Loneragan (13:35):
No, I feel you.
Danielle Lewis (13:36):
But went through that whole process of going, stepping on each other's toes, realizing we needed to understand what we were really good at and own our spaces and not step on each other's toes. And then ultimately we parted ways and not in business and in business together anymore. So I'm always super curious because I've seen it work super well. I have seen other couples who have crazy amazing businesses together, but I always tell a cautionary tale,
Meghan Loneragan (14:06):
I think there's more cautionary tales than successful ones. And so I do tip my hat as you probably do to people who do it successfully. But it is just, I think for us it was extremely painful. It was almost like the death of the relationship or one aspect of it, because our whole lives were entwined as influencers, but it didn't feel good to quantify our relationship or how many likes did that photo of us get? It just kind of bugged us eventually. But I think, yeah, the process of breaking down that arm of the business was extremely painful, lots of tears, crying, but we always joke, we are laughing now. We go through the anus of life and that sounds really gross, but we kind of make a joke out of it. We're like, we squeezed through the anus of life and now everything's perfect that we had to go through the tough time to get the shit out.
Danielle Lewis (15:13):
Oh my God, I love that so much. But it's so true though. I heard another one the other day where it's like people think that they shouldn't have problems, and it's like if you don't have problems, you're not trying at life hard enough. That's one. You're not actually trying to do anything. So I love that. I mean, I haven't ever heard that expression before.
Meghan Loneragan (15:38):
I'm sorry, I'm going to regret that, but you absolutely not. That's a really good point. But about trying things because a lot of founders or a lot of people before they even put themselves out there with the business sit and go, why me? Or they're scared of looking cringe or looking like how dare they try or how dare, who are they to put themselves out there? What I've learned over my experience in front of and behind the camera working is people are going to judge you no matter what. If you are the nicest person in the world, they'll say, you're too nice. If you keep your head down and you're boring, they'll say you're boring. And you might as well take control of your narrative and be like, okay, I'm in control of what people perceive me as, or I am almost not in control, but people are going to say what they're going to say no matter what. So what are you going to do? Live your life small to make other people feel comfortable? No,
Danielle Lewis (16:44):
Think this is a random one for you. Do you think that this is worse for women? Do you think that, I don't know. When you were saying that and you made that comment about the person that came up to you that was good on you jumping on all the bandwagons, I was like, it's such a chick thing to say, and I fall in and out of love with women in business feminism like these ideals because I do usually have that philosophy that it is what I make it and it doesn't matter that I'm all, and if I want something bad enough, I'll figure out how to get there. But I also don't want to discount the things that women go through. So yeah,
Meghan Loneragan (17:26):
I wonder. It's a struggle.
(17:29):
It's a struggle. And I do think, yeah, we'd have a lot more challenges because I think it is expected for men to go out there and put themselves out there and be like, look at me and beat their chest, and this is what I do, but you know what? I don't want to genderize it. It is just a very daunting thing to do for anybody to put themselves out there as human, as a human. And you are putting your head on the block for people to go, you are too this, you are too that. But I feel like a lot of founders do it because they can't help it. I physically cannot help doing this, and I've worked for full-time at other in-house places and it's been great, but I always felt that little pull to go, I need to do something on my own. I need to be creative. I need to do this. So people do it. They can't help it.
Danielle Lewis (18:32):
I love that. I know as I reflect on, because I'm now in a relationship with somebody who is not a business owner, and I reflect on my behaviors as a business owner and they're working constantly and all of that stuff, and I'm like, I don't think I can help it. I sit there and all I think about is ideas and wanting to do this and wanting to do that, and I'm like, I think it's just in me. I just can't fix it.
Meghan Loneragan (18:58):
You can't help it. And I think that's why the comments, if someone does say something bad, you feel it a bit more than if you just were working for someone else. But I don't know, everyone has feelings. Whether you work for someone else or you're a founder, it sucks to have people have opinions about you, but like they say, other people's opinions doesn't matter. It's none of your business.
Danielle Lewis (19:23):
And that's it. If we can control our opinions just to make sure we're kind to everybody to make sure that we're doing well,
Meghan Loneragan (19:30):
That's where extreme ownership comes in. If my side of the fence is taken care of and my nose is clean and my calm is good, then whatever anybody says doesn't matter because I'm living my life.
Danielle Lewis (19:45):
Yeah, I
Meghan Loneragan (19:45):
Love that, I guess.
Danielle Lewis (19:47):
Yeah, no, I love that so much. So then, okay, well tell me. So with all of these things going on, obviously we need to look after ourselves a little bit. So there are times where things are overwhelming. Maybe somebody said something, maybe we're just not feeling like we're hitting our goals. Every founder goes through those moments of overwhelm. Everything's too hard. Do you have practices or go to things in your day-to-Day or general business life that helps you?
Meghan Loneragan (20:24):
Yeah, I have a lot. So I get up at four in the morning and I write, tell me that in two journals. So I've got, oh my gosh, one of these is a positive journal and one of these is my business journal. Then I transfer everything I've written in my business journal, into my journal, into my notion. But in my positivity journal, anyone can read it, anyone can read it. It's not like a dear diary, I hate this person. Anyone can read it, but it's embarrassing as fuck because inside it says things like, today I will achieve this. I am so good at this. I'm proud of myself for this.
Danielle Lewis (21:01):
I love that.
Meghan Loneragan (21:03):
But it is part of the process that I use in the morning to feel confident to go out and put yourself out there. So I do this thing where I write down my vision, my values and my lifestyle. So with vision, it's like my vision for my life and what I want to do, my values, the things that I value. I like routine. I like security. I like having money in the bank. I know building my war chest and, and then lifestyle is want my dream lifestyle to be, it's embarrassing. Please no one break. No one break in and read my book. I literally have old versions of these in a safe in my house. I'm embarrassed. Well,
Danielle Lewis (21:49):
That's just forming the biography later on. So historians will come back and take snippets. So it's all good.
Meghan Loneragan (21:57):
My life, my life, sitting in an office behind my desk.
Danielle Lewis (22:01):
No, but I love that because I feel like, and it changes for me, well, not all of the time, but I think what I wanted 10 years ago, what I wanted a year ago, I just feel like it's constantly evolving and I'm optimizing, I think what my values are, what I think is important in my day to day, how I want to work every day, what the goal is. I think it's changed a lot. I used to going from corporate world to startup world or running your own business for a long time, just did things because I thought you had to do it that way. You're kind of like, what? Well, just how I dressed, the hours I worked, how I addressed people, how formal I was, and even staff. And I was like, okay, if you are unhappy, I'm like, you are the boss. You are the person that gets to design this. And it kind of wasn't until I said, you know what? I want to work for a company that's fun. I want to work for a company that I have a wine on my show. I interview people over a wine. We work so hard and so long. If I can't have a wine with you, I don't want to work with you. I
Meghan Loneragan (23:17):
Feel that.
Danielle Lewis (23:19):
But it took me such a long time to get there, and it wasn't until I actually went through that process that I kind of figured out what was important to me and I kind of gave myself permission to make those changes. So I actually love the practice of continuously writing things down because it's almost what helps you consolidate your thoughts and go on that journey.
Meghan Loneragan (23:44):
Do you meditate in the
Danielle Lewis (23:45):
Mornings? I do not. I do yoga. I meditate when I do yoga.
Meghan Loneragan (23:49):
Oh, yoga is good. Yoga is awesome. I can't do yoga. I struggle. But yeah, meditation is such a good, I kind of do evolved, not evolved, but my version of meditation is I think you're meant to sit there and keep your mind clear. And what I do is I sit there and I think about my dreams and my goals. So in the morning I'm like, okay, how do I want my day to go today? And imagine I actually do the day in my head sometimes.
Danielle Lewis (24:19):
That's cool.
Meghan Loneragan (24:21):
I'm weird. I
Danielle Lewis (24:22):
Do that when I can't sleep. So if I am, that's
Meghan Loneragan (24:25):
A good idea.
Danielle Lewis (24:26):
So if I can't sleep, what I do is I go, okay, that's okay. We're not worried about this. What we're going to do is we're going to use this time to design the life and see the vision and all those things. So if I'm ever lying awake in bed, I go stop thinking about that problem. Let's spend this time in the creative. And I find that really helps, actually
Meghan Loneragan (24:50):
Fully does. Maybe
Danielle Lewis (24:51):
That is my meditation. I just do it at 3:00 AM. Yeah,
Meghan Loneragan (24:54):
Yeah.
Danielle Lewis (24:56):
I love that. And and something you said five minutes ago now, but you mentioned war chest, and I want to go back to this because for anyone watching, they may not know that we have a book coming out, and I have invited my favorite female founders on the planet to contribute. And I know your segment mentioned War chest, and I want to know what that means for you.
Meghan Loneragan (25:24):
Love. I love my war chest. I love talking about it. I love thinking about it. Cool. And it's not just because it is not because I'm, even though I like money, we all like to live and do stuff, but for me, the war chest symbolizes freedom. And that's why I think we all get into being founders anyways, because we don't want to work for someone else. We want to do our own thing and follow our passions. The war chest is, you might've heard the practice before, is pay yourself first. It's that in action, but you give it a really hyperbolic name like War Chest because it kind of spurs up feelings of I'm at war with something, but not in a negative way. I'm just prepared. I'm prepared for anything that happens. I'm prepared. So every time I get an invoice paid, a percentage of that goes straight to my war chest.
(26:13):
No, bills get paid, rent doesn't get paid, credit card doesn't get paid. It goes war chest first. And what that does is psychologically in your mind, prioritizes your time. So you go, I'm a priority and my time is a priority. And even if you just get paid, it starts with $50. Mine started with 50 bucks, and it's pretty big now. And so what that does is if someone to me with a project that doesn't align with who I am or not who I am in an ego way, if I don't think I used to back when I started my business, and a lot of people will relate to this, is I took every job, everything. Then even if I didn't think that I was going to be great at it, I was like, I'm going to take it and do the best I can. I'll
Danielle Lewis (27:07):
Figure it out. I will figure it out.
Meghan Loneragan (27:09):
And what happened is I got really stressed and really anxious. I was like, okay, I've got to do this now I've got to think of this, and now I've got to do that. And the war chest allows me to go, okay, I might send forward that client onto another writer that I think is better for them. And I won't feel anxious about doing that because I have my war chest and I have this, it's kind of like some people call it the fuck you fund, but for if you're working for someone else and you don't want to work with them, me, the war chest is. And also I use it for things like courses that I want to do. So anything related to my business, it's just a freedom thing. And it is the best thing I have did. I'm not stressed anymore. And that's just because I pay myself first. That is
Danielle Lewis (27:58):
So good, because I think people don't do that. I think that they think about, I just don't think people plan their money effectively either. It's one thing I see a lot is people not being prepared for say a tax bill or something like that. And I kind of go, yeah, I think you think, oh my God, someone paid my couple of thousand dollars invoice. Yes, I get to go out and do this thing. And it's like, well, no. So some of that goes to the tax man, some of it goes to the expenses, some of that goes to here, but siphoning off a portion for a war chest to actually be intentional about building your business, I think is genius.
Meghan Loneragan (28:37):
And one of the biggest things I learned through this course I did was money is energy. And as a creative, I feel like I grew up with like, oh, you're a creative, you don't care about money, then no, I do care because it allows me to be more creative. So money's energy. So I do tell my money. I'm like, every time an invoice gets paid, I'm like, thank you. I'm so grateful. Or if I pay someone who helped me with something, I'm like, that money's going to come back to me three times. I am just very grateful for the money that comes in. I'm not desperate, but I'm just like, I appreciate that. I appreciate that client. I appreciate that invoice. And because then the more energy you put out of appreciation, the more work comes in. And that sounds really hippity, but ever since I started practicing that business has been good.
Danielle Lewis (29:34):
Well, and it's interesting too because someone once said to me, because often people who help other people or charities or social impact tend to think that they shouldn't make too much money. And someone once said to me, why should doing good and making money be mutually exclusive? And they were like, the more money you make good you can do. So I just love the idea of reframing what money means to you. And I love how you said more money means I can be more creative. It literally means I can bring more creative energy into the world. Yeah, it's interesting.
Meghan Loneragan (30:13):
And if I hire somebody, that money is helping someone else, I might hire another person to help me on a big project that's someone else getting paid. It's just good. It just feels good to appreciate your value and the value that others give to you. It's so funny. I reason I'm going on about this is because I never really was intentional about how I felt about money, or I had a money story and I put a limit on how much I could earn. I said, well, I'm only worth this much a year, or this is what I think I can earn. And then when I started going, no, I want to make this much per year, psychologically and subconsciously, your brain starts to come up with ways to make that money once you set a high goal. So it's interesting. I dunno.
Danielle Lewis (31:05):
Yeah. And I love, well, a lot of the things that we've talked about today has been intentional. So how to be intentional with your business, your life, your values, it's all interlinked as much as sometimes you want to separate business and personal, I think it's all related. When you're a business owner, I dunno if there's any getting around that. And you need to, I think, have the two aligned, but if you don't dedicate the time to really unpack what that means to you, you're kind of doing yourself a bit of a disservice.
Meghan Loneragan (31:36):
Yeah, a hundred percent. A hundred percent. It's very interlinked, personal and business.
Danielle Lewis (31:44):
So if somebody was watching this starting out, they were either very early in their journey or questioning themselves on taking the leap into starting their own business. And I'm sensing themes here today, which I love. But do you have any advice or thoughts for somebody if they're hesitating to just get started or they've started and things haven't quite translated in the way that they think it should have?
Meghan Loneragan (32:14):
I think advice I probably learn from my mistakes in a way. So my big mistake in business, I would say, is trying to do what I thought was the right thing to do or what society thought I should do versus being authentic to I am. Because I think when we start a business, like you said, I dressed a certain way or I acted a certain way, but the success for me has come when people can tell that I'm just being myself and being authentic. Ironically, when I stopped trying to be what I thought was successful, I just became successful. And I know that's cliche, but take the time to think about what makes you unique. And that is your biggest selling point. The fact that you went through all that with scrunch, the earlier adorations as an agency, and then where you are now, that's your superpower because you know the inner workings of agency life and now you're able to take that into something else. So I think being really honest and true to your story and going, this is who I am.
Danielle Lewis (33:44):
You know why I love that? I love that because I feel like if you're going to go into a business, you need to think about it as a 10 year exercise. It's not a, in one year I will have hit all of my dream goals. I'll have my dream house look. And absolutely some people do, so that's good and go for that, that's fine. But I feel like you need to design a business around a long term. I'm going to be in this for a while. And I just feel like if you don't love it and if it's not giving you energy and it's not aligned to what you believe in and your values and your authentic self, man, that's hard to get out of bed for every day
Meghan Loneragan (34:26):
So hard. But people can feel it. People can literally feel it coming out of your body through the screen. And so that is why I think a lot of influences do end up evolving because everyone, people do change and they do evolve. And I think the best, the most honest thing you can do is change and evolve. Sometimes there is a school of thought that you should niche down in your business or in your content or anything you shouldn't niche, and that's it. I take a bit of a different approach and I'm like, no. The honest thing to do is to just be a flow and go, okay, I'm into this and now I'm into this. And people are relating to that more these days than just a single niche,
Danielle Lewis (35:21):
Something related. The biggest lesson I've just learned is you can do it your way. There's so many things that's niche down or it's all about reels or it's all about this, or it's all about this. I'm like, no, no. There is a success story for every different strategy, for every different business, for every different path. So do it your way.
Meghan Loneragan (35:43):
Yeah, do it your way. I think that's the motto of this whole interview is, oh my God,
Danielle Lewis (35:51):
I
Meghan Loneragan (35:51):
Love that. I think that is, that's been the biggest realization for me, is going, this is how I'm going to do it. And the people who resonate with my business and how I work will come, and those that aren't in alignment will go to other people who are right for them and perfect for them. But yeah, it's just maybe that's just being in my mid thirties. It's just zen.
Danielle Lewis (36:20):
I love zen. I mean, we need to bring more zen to business. I think that's phenomenal.
Meghan Loneragan (36:25):
God, that's the holy grail, right?
Danielle Lewis (36:29):
My new strategy for 2022 Zen.
Meghan Loneragan (36:32):
Yeah, I know. I know. I love
Danielle Lewis (36:34):
It. Well, you have been amazing. Thank you so much for spending your time with the Spark community. I know anyone dialing in, I mean just sitting here right now, I feel better about my whole life.
Meghan Loneragan (36:49):
That's what I aim to do.
Danielle Lewis (36:52):
And look, we'll share all of the things about you, so if anyone wants to connect, they can. But I just want to say how grateful I am for you spending your time with us.
Meghan Loneragan (37:03):
I am extremely grateful, and thank you for squeezing me in at two o'clock. You are an angel.
Danielle Lewis (37:10):
Anytime.
